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Peter Tosh definitely reminds me of Maui...


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Some of it could just be funny and sarcastic and still bring forth a very good point, but still the sound is going to be harsh.






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That makes me wonder a bit ... do you think it's helpful or even necessary to get an education in terms of assessing the wrongs in the world? I'm all in favor of education; however, sometimes it seems a bit like brainwash. I guess the brainwashing is less effective on individuals that are capable of thinking freely.


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As far as education goes, it is kind of brainwashing in a way. I think having an education shows us how to maintain a sinking ship. Education refines, sharpens people into being part of the machine. An education doesn't give you anything for outside the machine. Its not for anything but the machine.

One of the reasons I quit school is because I couldn't chhose which side to be on. They'd hand out a topic list of releveant issues to discuss, write an argumenitive essay about why I believed such and such would be a good law, and I couldn't back up any of the choices with my mind, because they were all part of the machine.

I wrote one paper, the topic they gave me was "is it sexual discrimination to prohibit women from going topless in places where men are allowed?"

To me the question was answered in the topic. Is it sexual discrimination to say a man can do what a women cant? Obvioussly the question discriminates the sexes. So I wrote the paper but I couldn't think of any worldly logic to back it up and was suprised that the class was actually divided. My argument was that they should because 1, its a cultural hang up that causes us to have the law, and the other was that women, if anyone should be allowed to go topless because of breast feeding. The rest of the paper was pretty much about how one of our societies down fall is its disconnected nature and that as primates we'd do well to maybe have som of that natural primal behavior sublimating in to the psyches of our people because we are so disconnected from what we actually are. I said people now, would have to get over their hang ups because breast feeding in public should not be indirectly illeagal and women shouldn't feel self conscious about it, and the teacher called me a political radical.

All the other papers I couldn't do. I couldn't right papers with my own ideas and theories because you need to site reputable sources. So during the process of a college education you have to chooses sides and make yourself believe in them if you want to do well. You have to choose from the bucket and devote your mind to backing it aup and believe it.

After 4 years, a student has brainwashed themselves just to get a good grade.

Experience is the only measure of truth. most of what is wrong in the world would be best sorted out by the individual or at home. A s humans we aren't screwed because our governments are screwed. Our governments are screwed because we are.

I think we need the governments to go away though because a person can only do so much when the system has so much control over them. In order to work on ourselves we need to be able to walk away from our jobs and worldly obligations. Part of what we need to work on is not having the mindset that worries us into having 40 hour a week jobs just to survive. Working 40hrs a week is a spiritual discipline, anything you devote your life to is, and its the one that says God abandonded us to struggle to exist. If you sat and meditated and cultivated contentment that is a spiritual discipline too, just the opposite of the one everyone follows.

If men and women could learn to get along eerything would be fine.

The problem is that everything bad could be wiped off the earth and all the remaining people would innoculate the earth with the same problems, because we all have the egotistical disease. Two or threee generations could go by relatively fine but those human traits, concepts, and ideas that evolve into what we have now or something just like it.

I think the trick is for everyone to stop want ing what the world offers, lifestyles, materiel things and positions of power, if people stopped looking for that outside themselves and eachother then the main problems would go away.

I guess I am a firm believer that if the pond is murky, it isn't going to get clear by adding buckets of clear water, you have to leave it alone and the silt settles itself.

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edit-Another thing is I personally only have a ninth grade education. Various reasons, I started ditching school regularly when I was 8 years old and we moved around a lot. I went to 10 highschools and never passed the 9th grade. I got into college 10 years later by taking a competency exam but couldn't earn credit towards a degree because I don't have a diploma or equivalent.

When I was in Highschool and would ditch school, I ususally went to the library and read books of all kinds. education, how to etc. Id take photography books into the batroom and masturbate...That was my education for what its worth.

Our educational systems are not meant for everyone. I maybe would've done real well in a differnt type of school growing up. In class like in science when theyd teach I just didn't get it. It was all to vague and descriptive. I found out later that the more complex the description, the better for me because I need to beable to imagine what I'm learning. Like cells and biology made NO sense to me in school but when I researched detailed scientific data on my own, it all made sense.

If I take the test, my natural apptitudes are scientific/medical research, anthropology and (cellular) biology. I have the type of mind that can do that but I have way too many other things about me that pretty much determined my failure in the school systembefore I ever started. When I started ditching school in third grade it is because my teacher used to make fun of me infront of the class. I had 2 warts on my hands and she would blurt out how gross and disgusting I was. The class would be quiet and reading and she'd abruptly make a spectical. She'd say stuff to make me feel good sometimes, telling the whole class I'm going to be a doctor, then all the sudden shed make it known that she was making fun of my bad hand writing. So I ditched and once I realized that I didn't actually HAVE to go to school, I didn't.
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I think conventional means of education are not always necessary; so long as you desire to know, you will find a way to come by the information that is needed ... especially nowadays with the availability of the Internet, information is only a click away.

I often have the same issue you had in school, I can't really support ONE position. My school, or maybe rather my Profs, are pretty lax with my about that though; so long as I can argue why I don't hold either position I'm fine. Some require me to create alternatives to the given options if I can't make a stand; that's tricky sometimes and ends up being more work on my end but it's a good exercise.
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